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Post by pinkdancer on Oct 31, 2006 20:55:57 GMT -5
I want to know what everyone's opinon on birth control in a marriage relationship is, whether you are for it or against it. I put this under spiritual, because i believe for many people there may be a spiritual aspect to it, but even if you're feelings aren't that, I want to hear them too.
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Post by ~Z~ on Oct 31, 2006 21:19:18 GMT -5
I don't believe that birth control should be a spiritual issue, but that is only my opinion.
Within a marriage, I don't think there should be a problem with any type of birth control being used. I think that in this time, kids should be "planned," and if there is any reason that a person should want to not have kids, but still get the enjoyment of having sex without the worry of getting pregnant, than birth control is fine. Of course, birth control of any sort is never 100% effective. I have a friend (although I don't remember exactly who) that got pregnant 2ce while on the shot. There is another person I know in PA who was very careful with taking her pills appropriately and still got pregnant. Things happen - and I like to think that things happen for a reason.
Of course, I also think that both partners should come to an agreement of some sort if there are differeing views, if that is the case. I can't say for sure who should have the choice or not. It depends on how the discussions go. But each should respect the other, no matter what the end result or choice is.
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Post by godstyro on Nov 1, 2006 0:56:43 GMT -5
First let me clarify something --
do you consider the day after pill birth control as well or no?
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Post by pinkdancer on Nov 1, 2006 6:56:01 GMT -5
do you consider the day after pill birth control as well or no? I do. What I guess I was really wondering was, if God wants you to have a baby, you're going to have a baby, whether you're on the pill, the shot, the patch, whatever. Can God be your birth control? Can I believe that God will not give me a child that I am not ready for? Is it okay to trust God's timing with children and not use contraceptive.
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Post by rakshasas on Nov 1, 2006 7:48:49 GMT -5
I think that the biggest problem with deciding on birthcontrol is how do you really feel about your interpretation on what the bible is saying to you.We`re discussing something that really was not around two thousand years ago and applying it to our current time.I think hun your path to help others is very important and that whatever higher being is out there will not fault you for using a form of birthcontrol at least until your ready to have little ones. I tend to agree with Elizabeth.You and Matt need to talk about how you both feel towards it and to not mind what others think.Odds are if you use nothing your going to have kids sooner than later.
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Post by rakshasas on Nov 1, 2006 7:52:42 GMT -5
I hope that made sence as I am just becoming awake
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Post by redswine on Nov 1, 2006 8:08:19 GMT -5
we want to have kids sooner or later, were fairly undecided on a time table, so we kind of figured we'd let God decide. Is that dumb?
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Post by godstyro on Nov 1, 2006 9:47:51 GMT -5
That's where I draw the line basically. I believe birth control is okay in my eyes because to me it's the same thing as a condom. Birth control does the same thing a condom does. However when you take the after day pill is when I don't agree with taking. Because at that point if you are pregant you are killing the sperm that would become a child. Where as you are trying to prevent that from happening before you even have the sexual act with condoms etc. do you consider the day after pill birth control as well or no? I do. What I guess I was really wondering was, if God wants you to have a baby, you're going to have a baby, whether you're on the pill, the shot, the patch, whatever. Can God be your birth control? Can I believe that God will not give me a child that I am not ready for? Is it okay to trust God's timing with children and not use contraceptive.
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Post by godstyro on Nov 1, 2006 9:49:34 GMT -5
I've had a couple of family friends that have done that. So in my mind no it's not dumb. Just ask yourself though, if God sees it fit for you to have a lot of kids are you ready for that? The reason I ask is one of the families that go those lines has only a couple of kids. the other family has 9 kids. we want to have kids sooner or later, were fairly undecided on a time table, so we kind of figured we'd let God decide. Is that dumb?
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Post by redswine on Nov 1, 2006 10:08:07 GMT -5
well I guess this is when it gets fuzzy. We don't want a lot of kids, 2-3 would suffice. After that I believe we would be actively using birth control of some manner or another.
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Post by godstyro on Nov 1, 2006 10:39:35 GMT -5
Well if you are looking it at the way of God will give you kids when he thinks it's ready without any protection. Whats to say he's not going to do that with protection? No protection is 100% garauntee you won't get pregant it just makes the percentage of being preg. lower. If God wants you to have a kid he will make it so even with the protection. well I guess this is when it gets fuzzy. We don't want a lot of kids, 2-3 would suffice. After that I believe we would be actively using birth control of some manner or another.
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Post by redswine on Nov 1, 2006 11:12:52 GMT -5
and I agree with that too, i know too many people who have gotten pregnant on birth control, even after having a vasectamy(sp?)!!
I guess my big question is this, are we being careless or foolishly optomistic in leaving this in God's hands? I'm not sure if there really is any point in birth control if God can make it happen regardless, why use it at all? Are we leaving to much to chance? Do we lessen the chance by using birth control or or or, too many questions.
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Post by godstyro on Nov 1, 2006 12:43:36 GMT -5
In my opinion I don't really think you are either foolish or careless. Each person has a different stance on it. In my opinion (coming from someone who hasn't taken them) I see us taking birth contol as a means to have our own control over things. We like to think were in control when in the end we really aren't. Yea we want to trust God that he will take care of us. And of course he will but that doesn't excuse the fact that we are broken and human, and we like to feel that we have some control at some time or another. and I agree with that too, i know too many people who have gotten pregnant on birth control, even after having a vasectamy(sp?)!! I guess my big question is this, are we being careless or foolishly optomistic in leaving this in God's hands? I'm not sure if there really is any point in birth control if God can make it happen regardless, why use it at all? Are we leaving to much to chance? Do we lessen the chance by using birth control or or or, too many questions.
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Post by scott on Nov 1, 2006 17:06:56 GMT -5
I see no problem with a married couple using birth control if they want to be intimate, but aren't ready for kids yet.
Leaving it in God's hands isn't careless though. Unprotected sex doesn't guarantee conception any more than protected sex guarantees no pregnancy
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Post by mlogan on Nov 1, 2006 19:52:35 GMT -5
You guys should check out the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility. And no, we were not using this when Evie came about.
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